This article is part II of Steve Bannon's recent interview on 60 Minutes. (see Body Language Analysis No. 4057: Steve Bannon's "60 Minutes" Interview). The following analysis focuses on a crucial segment regarding Robert Mueller.
CHARLIE ROSE: Do you believe Mr. Mueller should be fired?
STEVE BANNON: No, I do not.
CHARLIE ROSE: Has there been discussions in the White House about firing him?
STEVE BANNON: N-, a-, d-, d-, a-, I would not tell you about discussions in the White House, but I would tell ya I n-, nothing I ever heard like that.
During 1:07, just after Charlie Rose asks, "Do you believe Mr. Mueller should be fired?" - the camera switches to Mr. Bannon. The image above captures his facial expression at that moment. Note in particular his lips. This configuration is known as an "Inward Lip Roll" (ILR). Both upper and lower lips are rolled inward as the teeth gently to moderately bite down on them. An inward lip roll is one method the psyche uses in its attempt to suppress both the inward growth of strong emotions - as well as any outward manifestations of these same feelings (of course it's not always successful). Most of the time the ILR is seen in the context of negative emotions (particularly anger), but occasionally with positive emotions (e.g., suppressing laughter when it's not socially acceptable).
In this context - immediately following a definitive and "yes-or-no type question", this nonverbal prefacing with an inward lip roll indicates, with high certainty, that a lie is about to be told.
And Mr. Bannon's answer? "No, I do not."
Immediately after saying this, he returned to another, less pronounced, ILR.
The fact that Mr. Bannon didn't use a contraction here - e.g., "No I don't" - or simply, "No" - adds significantly to the weight of the nonverbal inward lip roll display. This is an example of how language, paralanguage, and nonverbal language are all congruently pointing to deception.
A moment later we see another paralanguage tell after Charlie Rose asks, "Has there been discussions in the White House about firing him?"
Steve Bannon begins his answer with a five syllable stutter, "N-, a-, d-, d-, a-, I would not tell you about discussions in the White House, but I would tell ya I n-, nothing I ever heard like that."
Moreover, during his answer - first, he looks down to his left ...
... and then to his right. Such dynamic lack of eye contact during an answer is highly suggestive of a lie (this is an example of the colloquial, "shifty-eyed").
Furthermore, listen carefully to his answer - it's not at all a clear yes or no. "N-, a-, d-, d-, a-, I would not tell you about discussions in the White House ..." then he finishes his sentence with, "but I would tell ya I n-, nothing I ever heard like that."
Rather it's a stutter, followed by "I would not tell you" - followed by another stuttering indirect "nothing I ever heard like that". There's no "no" in his answer. This is a fantastic example of statement analysis coupled with nonverbal analysis.
Summary: Steve Bannon does believe President Donald Trump should fire Robert Mueller - and discussions of this nature have indeed occurred between the two men.
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